Josef PATSCHEIDER ⚭ Maria PLACK

Josef PATSCHEIDER born 1692

 (Gen. VII)

  • Born: 1692, Ray am Röschen
  • Died: unknown

Parents of Josef:

Marriage:

  • 1st marriage: to Apolonia SEYFARTIN died 2 September 1719
  • 2nd marriage: to Brigitta ZIERNHÖLDIN died 27 April 1737
  • 3rd marriage: 1737 to Maria Magd. PLACK born 13 July 1703 died 30 December 1740

Maria Magd. PLACK

   (married name PATSCHEIDER)

  • Born: 13 July 1703
  • Died: 30 December 1740

Parents of Maria:

Marriage:

  • 1737 to Josef PATSCHEIDER born 1692 at Ray a. Röschen

Children together (3rd marriage):

  • Josef PATSCHEIDER born 14 February 1738 in Graun, married 28 April 1761 in Graun to Monika SEIFART born 26 April 1742, Graun

(Author's note: my great-great-great-great-great-grandparents on the paternal side)

 

Sources (italicized text are original contents):

  • Manuscript 3992, State Archives Innsbruck according to Wopfner: Page 38, Gen. VII:
    Josef Patscheider geb. 1692 auf Ray a. Röschen, ehl.
    1. Apolonia Seyfartin 8/5 1714 (74/1) +2/9 1719 (209/1)
    2. Brigitta Ziernhöldin 30/3 1734 (98) +27/4 1737 (100)
    3. 1737 Magdalena Plaggin +19/12 1740 (291) 26/1 1762 (23/1)
    14/3 1757 (56/1)
  • Dr. Richard Patscheider: "Vom Oberrhein zum Etschquellraum", pages Z6 and Z46:
    Z6: Josef Patscheider "auf Ray am Röschen"
    h. 1. Apollonia Seyfartin, + 1719,
    2. Brigitta Ziernhöld, + 1737,
    3. Magdalena Plaggin, + 1740.

    It is known that at times Rayen and Reschen were treated as one; however, it is more likely that "at Ray" refers to the farm near the St. Nicholas Chapel and the addition "am Röschen" refers to farms at the entrance of the Royen Valley.
    Z46:Great-great-grandparents: Josef P., born 1692 at Ray, married in 3rd marriage to M. Magd. Plack in 1737 (born 1703 VII. 13 + 1740 XII. 19.), parents of Magd. Plack: Georg Plack and Christine Malsauerin.
  • "Ahnenpass" (ancestry certificate) of Irimbert Patscheider, page 24, no. 32:
    Patscheider Josef geboren 14.II.1738 in Graun
    als Sohn des (64) Josef Patscheider und der (65) Maria Plack
    Pfarramt Graun Tauf-Reg.-Nr. II/307

Comment:

The data situation is good: Josef's year of birth (1659) is clearly stated, and the wives are listed by name. The remaining data remain unclear — as with all entries by Wopfner. Dates of death can be identified thanks to the preceding plus sign (+).

The spelling of the third wife's surname appears both as PLAGG and PLACK; both variants are pronounced the same way. It is not known where Richard Patscheider obtained Maria Plack's date of birth on page Z46. The word ‘great-great-grandparents’ on page Z46 refers to Crescencia Patscheider, born 1865.

Wopfner

 

Patscheider family tree by Josef Wopfner - page 38

Photo of page 38 from the work of Josef Wopfner with the entry for Josef Patscheider Gen. VII, 2nd entry from the left

 

"Ahnenpass"
(ancestry certificate)

 

Ancestral Passport of Irimbert Patscheider

"Ahnenpass" (ancestry certificate) of Irimbert Patscheider, page 24: son Josef is no. 32, parents: Josef Patscheider is no. 64 and Maria Plack is no. 65

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